Andy McDonald or Steve Ott

[Slaxys]

In a points only draft, categories are G,A,+/-,PIM,PPP,SHP,GWG,SOG.

Either would be just a temporary C and benched once Crosby gets back in the game.

[Rocketman9]

IS there really a question here? Andy McDonald for sure!!

[Slaxys]

but wouldn't the PIM favor Ott? with an average difference over 150 PIM for the past few years, wouldn't he earn me more points? And doesn't McDonald have a history of health issues?

[Brendan Shanaban]

I would assume that difference is more than made up for by McDonald's expected G, A, PPP, SOG and GWG advantage over the course of an 82 game comparison...sure, he's had his health issues, but he's a point/game player when healthy and plays on a solid top line in STL (who are also a good team)...guys like Ott will always be a health risk w/ the type of game they play...I think it's AM and it's not that close, imo

[SirJesto]

I would take A. M. as well.

[Bigtuna]

I'm personally not a fan of PIM guys. I know it's a category but my thought is if they are in the box, they can co ntribute to the other categories. I'd rather pass PIM's for someone with high PPP or Shots etc. The theory being points will double down in other categories, if they are in the box, that's it...........my 1 1/2 cents...

[flubber]

I'm personally not a fan of PIM guys. I know it's a category but my thought is if they are in the box, they can co ntribute to the other categories. I'd rather pass PIM's for someone with high PPP or Shots etc. The theory being points will double down in other categories, if they are in the box, that's it...........my 1 1/2 cents...




A valid point-- I mainly go for PIMS guys that assist in other categories. I have a couple of leagues that have PIMS hits and shorties and players like Ott, Prust and Cooke look good there. They get their 30ish points which means you are giving up on average 1 or 2 points a week (in a H2H) with them versus the 50ish point guy you might be able to get in the late rounds. To me the one week that you might theoretically lose goals or assists by having such a player is worth it for the 3 weeks you take SHP, Hits or PIMS because of them in your team. (and if Prust can duplicate his 7 SHP that will likely win you that category 4 or 5 times all by itself)

I avoided the pure PIMS guy like Zenon but in leagues that count PIMS, Hits and SHP, I think you are missing out if you don't consider a team that has such guys-- Look at my team in the rate my team section and see what you think ( that team is a little extreme example as I took over a team in a league where you keep 12 where there was so very little scoring.)

For PIms in leagues without Hits and SHP,I am usually looking for guys that help in that area while being good offensively-- But so is everyone else so you see Ovie and Perry get taken soon. But all through the draft if I have similar offensive projections for two players, I will usually break the tie with a look at what I expect in PIMs and plus minus

[Bigtuna]

A valid point-- I mainly go for PIMS guys that assist in other categories. I have a couple of leagues that have PIMS hits and shorties and players like Ott, Prust and Cooke look good there. They get their 30ish points which means you are giving up on average 1 or 2 points a week (in a H2H) with them versus the 50ish point guy you might be able to get in the late rounds. To me the one week that you might theoretically lose goals or assists by having such a player is worth it for the 3 weeks you take SHP, Hits or PIMS because of them in your team. (and if Prust can duplicate his 7 SHP that will likely win you that category 4 or 5 times all by itself)

I avoided the pure PIMS guy like Zenon but in leagues that count PIMS, Hits and SHP, I think you are missing out if you don't consider a team that has such guys-- Look at my team in the rate my team section and see what you think ( that team is a little extreme example as I took over a team in a league where you keep 12 where there was so very little scoring.)

For PIms in leagues without Hits and SHP,I am usually looking for guys that help in that area while being good offensively-- But so is everyone else so you see Ovie and Perry get taken soon. But all through the draft if I have similar offensive projections for two players, I will usually break the tie with a look at what I expect in PIMs and plus minus

Agreed, I should have noted that my league gives points for PIM (nothing for Hits, SHP's) so my theory only applies to my specific format. Lot's to consider!

[Flames89Champs]

Ott is projected to have a better year with Neal gone.. also.. with Benn there playing center.. I think Dallas would have Ott on the wing on either the first 2 lines. BUT that being said, people and the press have been projecting Ott to have this 'Career' year for the last 2 years.. and he has yet to impress me. I picked him up for half the season last year for the PIM's alone.. that was it.

[Slaxys]

Is it ever a concern to have three players on one line? I recently acquired Benn, and already had Erickkson. Is there a benefit or disadvantage to this situation?

[Flames89Champs]

I would say a benefit... on one goal.. you potentially have a chance at getting 3 points and a plus 3 in the +- category.. not to mention if it was a power play goal which is even better! Haha!

[flubber]

Is it ever a concern to have three players on one line? I recently acquired Benn, and already had Erickkson. Is there a benefit or disadvantage to this situation?

Its high risk high reward-- When good things happen they tend to affect all 3 and when bad things ditto. This can be amplified in weekly H2H formats which I play-- I tend to try to spread out my team a little more but I see no reason why it wouldn't be valid to draft linemates if you believe in thm

[flubber]

Agreed, I should have noted that my league gives points for PIM (nothing for Hits, SHP's) so my theory only applies to my specific format. Lot's to consider!


I am learning how pretty much any comment is completely format specific-- In formats with no SHP, Hits, Blocks etc I tend to try to get some good all round players who also have PIMS and in deep leagues I may fill my last 1-2 D spots with guys that offer little other than +/- and PIms. I typically don't go for a dedicated PIMS guy except as a waiver wire exchange midweek or later to try to pick up the category

[GP1989]

Mcdonald should be decent..........EH GUYS what do you think.......Bernier got dropped in my pool I really want him but don't have that many options to drop
I guess the two worst guys on my team are elias and ennis who would u drop for him??

My team is

H. Sedin
M. Riberio
L. Couture

D. Sedin
I. Kovalchuk
M. Lucic
T. Hall
J. Eberle
P. Elias
T. Ennis

D. Doughty
S. Weber
P.K Subban
Cam Fowler

Ryan Miller
Steve Mason

[SirJesto]

Is it ever a concern to have three players on one line? I recently acquired Benn, and already had Erickkson. Is there a benefit or disadvantage to this situation?

It's greatr when they score, It sucks when they get scored on LOL. It helps if they both play the PP too.

[SirJesto]

Mcdonald should be decent..........EH GUYS what do you think.......Bernier got dropped in my pool I really want him but don't have that many options to drop
I guess the two worst guys on my team are elias and ennis who would u drop for him??

My team is

H. Sedin
M. Riberio
L. Couture

D. Sedin
I. Kovalchuk
M. Lucic
T. Hall
J. Eberle
P. Elias
T. Ennis

D. Doughty
S. Weber
P.K Subban
Cam Fowler

Ryan Miller
Steve Mason

I would drop eberle