Transaction and game limits

[flubber]

If you have not commented on roster size yet please chime in in that thread but it appears we will have a 16 team league with 20 player rosters.

So the question now is around min games transaction limits etc etc- What do you wish in this regard

[flubber]

1. Transaction limits-- Yes-- since every week is a separate contest I favor weekly limits-- I find 5 per week is a good balance-- It allows a manager to actively manage but is a low enough level that you cannot brute force and churn for additional skater games--

I am against season limits as this can set up unequal contests late in the season where one player could have many transactions left and another manager few

2. Min games-- every H2H I played had a goalie minimum of 3 games for stats to count

No max games for anything-- If someone wants to have a roster of all centres so they get 21 games from centres each week and they lose out on other positions so be it-=- People can carry whatever roster they want

Overall I am in favor of people having a fair bit of leeway to manage but I do see the need for a weekly transaction limit to prevent churn.

[Tim]

1. TRansaction limits-- Yes-- since every week is a separate contest I favor weekly limits-- I find 5 per week is a good balance-- It allows a manager to actively manage but is a low enough level that you cannot brute force and churn for additional skater games--

I am against season limits as this can set up unequal contests late in the season where one player could have many transactions left and another manager few

2. Min games-- every H2H I played had a goalie minimum of 3 games for stats to count

No max games for anything-- If someone wants to have a roster of all centres so they get 21 games from centres each week and they lose out on other positions so be it-=- People can carry whatever roster they want

Overall I am in favor of people having a fair bit opf leeway to manage but I do see the need for a weekly transaction limit to prevent churn.

Completely agree with everything said. This is my vote too.

[dlscowby22]

Honestly, i feel 3 moves per week max would be more than fair. you shouldnt be playing free agent pool to supplement your off days with starts. to me, that just isnt what drafting a team is about. if you want to replace a under preforming player, cool. an injured player, cool. other than that, no. But thats my opinion. 2-3 minimum starts for goalies = good. also no max games for skaters.

[UK Rob]

I agree with dlscowby22 about the 3 moves per week. I feel that in a deep league even 4 moves per week is enough to brute force some extra points; it is certainly enough to swing categories in my 12 team H2H this year so it could only be exaggerated with more teams.

For minimum Goalie games I think 3 is fair. With a 16 team league and here on LWL I would expect us all to carry 3 Goalies minimum so if that was the case all but 2 backups would be on rosters already and it shouldn't be any trouble to get 3 starts out of 3 active Goalies.

Max. games I don't like at all; that's for a rotisserie league not a H2H.

[internalprime8]

I am purdy much in agreement with dlscowby and uk. 3-4 moves per week is fine for me to prevent churning. The most important thing is to also have at least a 2-3 day waiver period for every player dropped. 3 minimum goalie starts is enough to prevent people from sitting on one good start. Season limits and max games don't make any sense in a H2H format league.

[flubber]

Flubber 5 Moves a week, NO season limits, 3 minimum goalie appearances-- NO other limits
Tim 5 Moves a week, NO season limits, 3 minimum goalie appearances-- NO other limits
dlscowboy 3 moves a week, NO season limits, 2-3 minimum goalie appearances-- NO other limits
UK Rob 3 moves a week, NO season limits, 3 minimum goalie appearances-- NO other limits
internalprime8, 3-4 moves a week, NO season limits, 3 minimum goalie appearances-- NO other limits

[flubber]

The most important thing is to also have at least a 2-3 day waiver period for every player dropped.

All my H2H have this. You need to have enough time to makle the waiver wire have meaning.

[flubber]

Honestly, i feel 3 moves per week max would be more than fair. you shouldnt be playing free agent pool to supplement your off days with starts. to me, that just isnt what drafting a team is about. if you want to replace a under preforming player, cool. an injured player, cool. other than that, no. But thats my opinion. .

Its a valid one-- I see this sometimes as philosophically managers differ. Some see a fantasy pool as about the draft and any transactions are limited almost undesired in some ways. Others (and this is my camp) want a pool to be something where some active management is beneficial

[flubber]

I agree with dlscowby22 about the 3 moves per week. I feel that in a deep league even 4 moves per week is enough to brute force some extra points; it is certainly enough to swing categories in my 12 team H2H this year so it could only be exaggerated with more teams.
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Actually my experience is the deeper the league, the LESS likely it is that there is anyone available that will materially change things.

I'll state my bias up front-- I like settings that reward active managers. Heck I would suppoet unlimited transactions except I played it once and saw the stupidity of churn. WE had a guy that dropped 5 players pretty much every day and added 5 more. It was only a 8 team league so there were goof players on the FA wire. AS a method it was very effective but there weas very little intelligence or judgement required. I think everyone recognized the tedium of it and I vowed never again to play in a H2H unless there were transaction limits .

THat said I cannot see any "churn" in limits such as we are discussing. Personally I WANT people to be looking at who they can add late in a week to perhaps take a category. I don't see that as brute force. I see it as making a more active and exciting league. I don't want limits that create a "draft it and forget it type team".

WE haven't gotten to stats yet but if we have a lot, I like the idea of having a couple of moves available to set my team up for the matchup (perhaps I perceive you are weak in blocks so I drop a couple of my marginal players that are good shot blockers since I hope to win that anyway and pick up someone else) and then a few more for late week attempts to swing close categories. You might see my moves and then pick up some shot blockers to take what you see as a now vulnerable category

Just my opinion but even with as many as 5 trans a week its not brute force, its about intelligent use of a scarce resource. I LIKE the idea that I can influence the result on the week