Divisions/Conferences

[flubber]

This seems like a really interesting idea. I'm really not sure what my vote would be for right now, though. So many possible ways to do it.

Glad you like it.. I like it more and more as I think about it but doubt it gets much traction. Most leagues are pretty traditional . But it handles fairness fairly simply-- if you cannot make top 4 of 8 -- too freaking bad that you think the other conference is weaker.

16 is a lot of managers so smaller groupings could lead to more rivalries


My bottom line is still that I will play whatever-- All my other leagues have had no divisions or had largely meaningless ones


Don't mind me though-- Not for this league but generally , I have all sorts of quirky ideas such as

1. A H2H league where every manager had two distinct teams ( do not play each other nor trade with each other) and the winner is best aggregate points total. I thought of a 6-8 manager league so that would be 12-16 "teams"

2. How about a league where the rights to every player are available 2 or 3 times ( I doubt any regular league hosting could handle it but some computer dude could probably make it so they become separate players -- Lundqvist1, Lundqvist2 and Lundqvist3)-- Lundqvists rights would be available 3 times so 3 different teams could roster him or one team could roster him twice and on a busy night have to decide if they roll Lundqvist times 2 or Lundqvist and Halak--


Regular fantasy is loads of fun but I keep consider different options

[Tim]

The first idea couldn't work under our league because that would be 32 teams which would just be ridiculous lol, could definitely see it in 8 or 10 team league though. The second idea would be awesome but I have no idea how we would be able to do it.

As for the playoffs of the two conference league I would like to see a bye for the first team or two. Otherwise the difference between first seed and fourth seed is basically nothing.

[flubber]

The first idea couldn't work under our league because that would be 32 teams which would just be ridiculous lol, could definitely see it in 8 or 10 team league though. The second idea would be awesome but I have no idea how we would be able to do it.

As for the playoffs of the two conference league I would like to see a bye for the first team or two. Otherwise the difference between first seed and fourth seed is basically nothing.

Those quirky ideas weren't being proposed for THIS league-- heavens no-- they were just crazy thoughts I had for weirdly different leagues-- I will edit that to clarify

[flubber]

As for the playoffs of the two conference league I would like to see a bye for the first team or two. Otherwise the difference between first seed and fourth seed is basically nothing.

So just like the NHL ?? Byes mean that only 6 of 16 teams make the playoffs-- If thats what people want thats fine by me . . . but finishing first and playing the opposing 4th place team SHOULD be markedly different than playing the opposing 1st place team. In all the world and Olympic tourneys, finishing first means you cannot face either the 1st place team on the other side or 2nd place from your side until the final-- Its not a bye but its not nothing either

6 or 8 playoff teams -- again I am ambivalent --If forced I would vote for 8 since I favour actual competing over byes

I think you could have at most 1 bye per conference unless the playoffs were longer than 3 rounds

[Tim]

Yah I don't know if byes would work for this league tho. In my league six teams make it first two get byes. Different number of teams tho.

[flubber]

Yah I don't know if byes would work for this league tho. In my league six teams make it first two get byes. Different number of teams tho.

Most leagues ( at least those I have seen with 10-14 teams) seem to default to 6 playoff teams with either the top two seeds or the two division winners getting byes. With 16 teams either 6 teams and 2 byes or 8 playoff teams are workable ( IN theory I guess you could have 7 playoff teams and one bye but I have never seen it )

[Flames89Champs]

I like the two 8 team Conference idea... with the Conference leaders getting the top 2 spots for playoffs with the total playoffs seeds of 8.. then the remaining 6 playoff spots are determined by points of the two conferences combined. That is how it is in the other keeper league I'm in... so in actual fact.. you could have almost one whole Conference in the playoffs minus the other Conference leader. NOT in favor of byes whatsoever... sorry, the NHL doesn't have any byes.. I think we should try to keep it as 'real' as possible.

Not sure if it this is the RIGHT way to do things.. but I think it is simple.. and not complicated playoff format. The 4 divisions.. that can get a little 'involved'.. but whatever the majority wants.. is fine with me.

[Wings9798]

I like the two conference idea. However i also like the 1st place teams getting the bye. I believe Yahoo uses a 25 week schedule? My cureent league has 12 teams 1st two get byes. Playoffs are weeks 23-24-25. 6 teams make the playoffs. With our larger league the playoffs would need to be extended to 4-5 weeks. I would just like to see the conference winners get something more than the 4th place finisher. Not sure how to make that happen though

I'm fine though with the consensus for either divisions or conferences.

[flubber]

I like the two conference idea. However i also like the 1st place teams getting the bye. I believe Yahoo uses a 25 week schedule? My cureent league has 12 teams 1st two get byes. Playoffs are weeks 23-24-25. 6 teams make the playoffs. With our larger league the playoffs would need to be extended to 4-5 weeks. I would just like to see the conference winners get something more than the 4th place finisher. Not sure how to make that happen though

I'm fine though with the consensus for either divisions or conferences.

I am assuming any people that want conferences but say conference leaders plus any next 4 or 6 would see the schedule as being balanced.

If thats the case I would not want that . I find those to be meaningless conferences that just serve to give someone with the 3rd or 4th best record a position as second seed.

To me for divisons/conferences to have meaning, you should play them more and conferences should be a big part of how playoff contenders get decided. If six or eight best overall records make the playoffs, that to me is an argument for a random/balanced schedule with no form of divisions.

[Rocketman9]

To me for divisons/conferences to have meaning, you should play them more and conferences should be a big part of how playoff contenders get decided. If six or eight best overall records make the playoffs, that to me is an argument for a random/balanced schedule with no form of divisions.

I absolutely agree with this statement.